Explain the significance of Baba's lesson to Amir that "Every other sin is a variation of theft" (17). How does that lesson impact both Amir and Baba or even other characters in the novel?
Well later in the book. Amir gets very upset, well more pissed than upset at his father for being a hypocrite right to his face. How could his father sit there and say that about sin when he slept with his friend's wife and denied one of his son's the life he deserved-- not saying Hassan wasn't happy with his life or anything, but that's not the point. I mean sure Baba was probably telling Amir this out because in a way he was guilty for this but still. It later makes Amir feel really bad for treating his brother like a slave. No one wants to feel that. Amir feels betrayed and Rahikm is sorry he was the one who had to reveal Baba's secrate. It's not something anyone wants to do. Amir begins to wonder what else his father lied to him about and what esle in his life is a lie. When you are 38 years old, it's not a good thing to all of a sudden begin to study your life and begin to question every aspect of your past to try to find if things were lies or truth. It drives a man crazy.
Baba's lesson really showed that you can't always think about yourself and what god thinks of you, but you have to think about what you do and what it will do to others. If you drink, well, other than the fact that you may get drunk and make a fool of yourself, you don't really take anything away from anyone else. But if you sleep with another mans wife, well, that takes HIS wife.
Amir lies, and takes Hassans father away from him. He sinned right?
It impacts them both a lot. Baba lies to Amir when he tells him this by not telling him that he himself is a theif. He stole Amirs right to know that Hassan was his half brother. This makes Amir think of his father in a whole differnet way.
It is interesting that Baba says if you lie it is theft because you take away someones right to the truth. Yet, Baba lied to everyone for all those years of Hassan being his child. He didn't even tell Amir years later on his death bed. It makes the reader wonder why didn't he say anything...?
This lesson that Baba teaches to Amir is a very powerful example of Afghani culture. They are a very formal and honest people.
To say every sin is a variation of theft, provokes a lot of thought. For a lesson to your son, this is great advice, but it doesn't help to be a hypocrite...
Baba is a VERY HUGE Hypocrite and this pisses Amir off a lot because had it not been for Baba and his dishonesty, Amir and Hassan could have developed a more brotherly relationship before Hassan was killed.
I agree with Paige. Baba was also a thief at one time however the whole rest of his life he tried to get it off his chest by being heroic (ex. he builds an orphanage)
Amir learns that Baba is a hypocrite. He slept with his servent's wife and has a child, Hassan. Because of this he ruins the friendship with Ali and he steals the truth from both of his sons. Baba's sin caused Hassan to live as a servent.
At one point in the story Amir sets up Hassan by putting money under his mattress and claiming he stole it. He did this in hopes that Baba whould be upset. But he wasn't. Instead, Baba forgave Hassan. It makes Amir feel angry and not good enough because it seems like Baba admires Hassan more than his own son. He doesn't understand why Baba forgave him because Baba had told Amir thatstealing was the ultimate sin. When Amir first learned that lesson he thought it was a good lesson. But now Baba went back on his word and so he's messed up.
Well i know what Ba Ba said but then he went back on his own words by doing what he did. He never even told Amir that Hassan and him were brothers and there for i agree with Amir when he says his hole life has been a lie up until now.
It is terrible that Baba goes against his own words to live by. The one thing he told Amir never to do, apparently is the one thing he does. That cannot make Amir feel to great about his own father. And we all know that Amir doesn't have a problem telling a lie. Every person in that family is two faced, besides Hassan.
Baba had told Amir that lying is the worst. If you lie, you are stealing someone's right to the truth. Later in the book, Amir had found out that Hassan is his half brother. This really upset Amir, because not only was his father already dead, he did not know where Hassan was. He missed the chance of growing up knowing that he had a brother; and he had to live with the thought that his own father kept the truth from him for all of these years. -Meghan
I think this is a very important lesson that Baba teaches Amir, and it really makes you think a lot, because he has a valid point. I just don't like how Baba sinned too by not telling Amir that Hasan was his brother, and all this time the boys didn't even know it. Baba should learn from his own lesson.
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Well later in the book. Amir gets very upset, well more pissed than upset at his father for being a hypocrite right to his face. How could his father sit there and say that about sin when he slept with his friend's wife and denied one of his son's the life he deserved-- not saying Hassan wasn't happy with his life or anything, but that's not the point. I mean sure Baba was probably telling Amir this out because in a way he was guilty for this but still. It later makes Amir feel really bad for treating his brother like a slave. No one wants to feel that. Amir feels betrayed and Rahikm is sorry he was the one who had to reveal Baba's secrate. It's not something anyone wants to do. Amir begins to wonder what else his father lied to him about and what esle in his life is a lie. When you are 38 years old, it's not a good thing to all of a sudden begin to study your life and begin to question every aspect of your past to try to find if things were lies or truth. It drives a man crazy.
Baba's lesson really showed that you can't always think about yourself and what god thinks of you, but you have to think about what you do and what it will do to others. If you drink, well, other than the fact that you may get drunk and make a fool of yourself, you don't really take anything away from anyone else. But if you sleep with another mans wife, well, that takes HIS wife.
Amir lies, and takes Hassans father away from him. He sinned right?
It impacts them both a lot. Baba lies to Amir when he tells him this by not telling him that he himself is a theif. He stole Amirs right to know that Hassan was his half brother. This makes Amir think of his father in a whole differnet way.
baba had a point to a certain degree...but he is still a hypocrite and really messed a lot of stuff up for hassan and amir.
It is interesting that Baba says if you lie it is theft because you take away someones right to the truth. Yet, Baba lied to everyone for all those years of Hassan being his child. He didn't even tell Amir years later on his death bed. It makes the reader wonder why didn't he say anything...?
But did he really lie? No one ever really asked him if Hassan was his son. Does that actually count?
This lesson that Baba teaches to Amir is a very powerful example of Afghani culture. They are a very formal and honest people.
To say every sin is a variation of theft, provokes a lot of thought. For a lesson to your son, this is great advice, but it doesn't help to be a hypocrite...
Baba is a VERY HUGE Hypocrite and this pisses Amir off a lot because had it not been for Baba and his dishonesty, Amir and Hassan could have developed a more brotherly relationship before Hassan was killed.
Nicole and I wondered if Ali knew that Hassan really wasn't his son, thus was the lie know?
I agree with Paige. Baba was also a thief at one time however the whole rest of his life he tried to get it off his chest by being heroic (ex. he builds an orphanage)
Amir learns that Baba is a hypocrite. He slept with his servent's wife and has a child, Hassan. Because of this he ruins the friendship with Ali and he steals the truth from both of his sons. Baba's sin caused Hassan to live as a servent.
At one point in the story Amir sets up Hassan by putting money under his mattress and claiming he stole it. He did this in hopes that Baba whould be upset. But he wasn't. Instead, Baba forgave Hassan. It makes Amir feel angry and not good enough because it seems like Baba admires Hassan more than his own son. He doesn't understand why Baba forgave him because Baba had told Amir thatstealing was the ultimate sin. When Amir first learned that lesson he thought it was a good lesson. But now Baba went back on his word and so he's messed up.
The idea of theft is going to keep appearing until it is taking care of.
Well i know what Ba Ba said but then he went back on his own words by doing what he did. He never even told Amir that Hassan and him were brothers and there for i agree with Amir when he says his hole life has been a lie up until now.
Nate E.
It is terrible that Baba goes against his own words to live by. The one thing he told Amir never to do, apparently is the one thing he does. That cannot make Amir feel to great about his own father. And we all know that Amir doesn't have a problem telling a lie. Every person in that family is two faced, besides Hassan.
Baba had told Amir that lying is the worst. If you lie, you are stealing someone's right to the truth. Later in the book, Amir had found out that Hassan is his half brother. This really upset Amir, because not only was his father already dead, he did not know where Hassan was. He missed the chance of growing up knowing that he had a brother; and he had to live with the thought that his own father kept the truth from him for all of these years.
-Meghan
I think this is a very important lesson that Baba teaches Amir, and it really makes you think a lot, because he has a valid point. I just don't like how Baba sinned too by not telling Amir that Hasan was his brother, and all this time the boys didn't even know it. Baba should learn from his own lesson.
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